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Dear Rolling Stone,

Thanks for a non-partisan article where obvious side-choosing doesn't happen.

Also, thanks for spelling their names correctly, which MTV and NME (eta: and Spin /eta) seem to find difficult.

Love,
Me


Aside: Weeks later, RyRo's Peter Gabriel/Ray Davies comparison still comes off as an insult.


And finally, I have to be honest: Changes sounds like more of a rip-off of The Who and The Kinks to me than anything new. Maybe I'll like it more on repeated listening? IDK. It suits Ryan Ross's voice, but if they record an entire album that is so clearly derivative, I will be disappointed.

Date: 2009-07-29 01:03 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] royalneptune.livejournal.com
Oh god thank you. Thank you, thank you, for saying exactly what I've been thinking. I haven't wanted to say anything just because my flist so far has been filled with 'ah well, it's different, but we love them anyway.'

Different, yes, in the sense that it's been done before by infinitely more talented artists. I just. Ugh. It leaves me with bad taste in my mouth.

New Perspectives, while it's hardly groundbreaking or DEEP, isn't trying too hard. And is stuck in my head. Dammitall.

Date: 2009-07-29 01:10 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] asimplechord.livejournal.com
My f-list is squeeing pretty hard, although most of them admit that the sing is heavily influenced by The Kinks. Which is fine. I like The Kinks, and I like The Who. And I think that they could use those bands as influences without being so utterly dependent on them as they are here. *shrug* It's just one song, so I'm not abandoning them yet. But I sorta figure that, given my preference for AFYCSO over P.O, PATD is likely to have more of my attention than TYVs.

Date: 2009-07-29 01:17 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] royalneptune.livejournal.com
I'll definitely listen to the rest of TYVs album before I throw in the towel for good, but I'm just a little disheartened over this first single. I'm not overly impressed. That and, perhaps through no fault of his own who knows, Ryan sounds too much like Sgt Pepper's era Beatles vocally for me. And it's BUGGING me and I can't explain why. I can't even tell if he's doing it on purpose or not, I just know he didn't sound like that during Mad as Rabbits. I mean. A little. But not this much.

Oh, look, I've stopped making sense...

Date: 2009-07-29 01:20 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] asimplechord.livejournal.com
He had so much instrumentation behind him in Mad As Rabbits that it wasn't as noticeable, maybe?

Date: 2009-07-29 01:43 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] royalneptune.livejournal.com
Point. Maybe it's more noticeably now. IDK.

Date: 2009-07-29 01:10 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mudd248.livejournal.com
"Weeks later, RyRo's Peter Gabriel/Ray Davies comparison still comes off as an insult."

That's pretty much what I think. But whatever. I don't know what he meant by it, and they obviously went different directions.
I actually like both songs a decent amount, so I don't have any qualms.

Date: 2009-07-29 01:13 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] asimplechord.livejournal.com
Oh, definitely different directions. Hearing this (which I hope is only an indicator of direction, not what their entire album sounds like) only confirms that. IDK, I thought I was being a defensive Brendon-wife when I first read that comment, and that as time went on I'd cool off and not be annoyed by it. But it still reads like swipe at someone for liking what's popular. I feel like saying, "Hey, there's a REASON it's popular; plus, indie wouldn't be so hip and cool if you didn't have popular stuff to look down on." Plus, Sledgehammer was AWESOME.

Date: 2009-07-29 01:47 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mudd248.livejournal.com
It's ironic too, if it's the whole 'looking down on what's popular' because ummmm...Beatles? Hi, remember, they were a little popular.

Date: 2009-07-29 01:25 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] harriet-vane.livejournal.com
Word, word, word.

Date: 2009-07-29 01:51 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] asimplechord.livejournal.com
It's providing hours and hours of debate and entertainment, though, so all is not lost!

I'm still laughing at the AP post title here (http://www.absolutepunk.net/showthread.php?t=1220572). Because, seriously, I had a smirk-inducing moment of imagining Ryan Ross shooting up when I saw the band's name.

Date: 2009-07-29 01:55 am (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] fiddleyoumust.livejournal.com
You know, I think the fan reaction to the divorce is bugging me more than the actual divorce. I'm so sick of seeing people say they like "New Perspective" because it's Panic! and they like The Young Veins and "Change" because it's good music. They're both good music in their own way in that taste is subjective and liking one over the other doesn't make one person's musical taste any better or worse.

I don't know where this idea that Ryan and Jon are the real musicians and Brendon and Spencer are the makers of bubble gum pop came from, but I really wish both sides would stfu about how much better their side is. It's making me want to punch babies... and babies are so cute. They don't deserve that. :(

*points at journal's subtitle*

Date: 2009-07-29 02:03 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] asimplechord.livejournal.com
I'm not taking sides in a Brendon/Spencer vs. Ryan/Jon sort of way, or at least I'm trying not to (although I do think Ryan's interview with MTV was sort of ill-advised). I think it's clear from these two songs that they could not produce another cohesive album together without more compromising than either side wanted to do. And even though the divorce is probably far less amicable than we are seeing, I think it's better that it happened before things got ugly in public.

Do not get me started on why people look down on what is popular and the culture of elitism. (Why are people who like opera "aficionados" but people who like rock are just "fans"?) I have had this entire discussion with my sister over "literature" vs. genre fiction, and pretty much the same ridiculous comparisons can be made with pop vs. indie music.

There's nothing wrong with Changes. It just... sounds like old stuff to me. So it's not going to ever be in my most-played list. But neither is Pretty.Odd, really. I like individual songs on it a lot, but I don't play it straight through the way I do AFYCSO.

Re: *points at journal's subtitle*

Date: 2009-07-29 03:07 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] harriet-vane.livejournal.com
I just want to keep saying WORD to everything you post. What the hell is wrong with pop music? I LIKE POP MUSIC.

Re: *points at journal's subtitle*

Date: 2009-07-29 03:18 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] asimplechord.livejournal.com
There is nothing wrong with pop music! Popular music isn't evil! Just because lots of people like it, that doesn't make it bad! In fact, all the things we think are "classic" songs/literature/whatever now were the pop culture of their time. Dickens and Arthur Conan Doyle published their novels and stories as serials! Shakespeare wrote his time's version of The Simpsons! The Who had enough popular and commercial success to be inducted into the Rock&Roll Hall of Fame!

/rant

Sorry, you totally didn't deserve that, but I get so frustrated sometimes!
Edited Date: 2009-07-29 03:22 am (UTC)

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