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But this strikes me as an invasion of privacy and coming perilously close to a warrantless seizure.

I don't really know any details about it, just what I saw on the news last night. Apparently the judge/DA/whatever who signed the paperwork justified it by saying that the fine print in the driver's license contract includes an agreement for testing by the police. (Which, OK, I'm not a lawyer, so how do you enforce that if it's a relatively new addition and the driver signed the paperwork years ago? Isn't that invasive, pushing the boundaries of contractual obligations?)

Um... if they can do that to anyone they pull over, what else can they test for, look for, or investigate? Where do we draw the line?

Date: 2007-05-30 04:29 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fleurdeliser.livejournal.com
Yeah, I agree. That's a bit shady. If a doctor can be charged with assault for forcefully doing a blood test on an unwilling patient or giving life-saving treatment to someone who has a DNR, then it seems that this would be the same kind of violation.

Date: 2007-05-31 02:26 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] asimplechord.livejournal.com
It seems a bit hypocritical, really. But I'm sure that the first time someone tries to sue, the DA's office will point out that there's an "emergency warrant" setup so it's technically not a violation. Big brother everywhere.

Date: 2007-05-30 05:54 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lilyeyes.livejournal.com
Hmmm...always have the right of refusal here unless you have hurt someone in a crash, then they will do a forced draw. Here there has to be probable cause to test for anything other than alcohol and the person better be charged with under the influence of a controlled substance if you test for it. Civil rights are not considered optional - but then, this is Northern California...

Date: 2007-05-31 02:27 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] asimplechord.livejournal.com
So maybe they are using the fact that the driver was pulled over at all as the probable cause? I dunno. Irks me, either way.

Date: 2007-05-31 03:25 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lilyeyes.livejournal.com
Not here - you have to DO something (or have a light out at least) to get pulled over! Then you have to fail the field sobriety tests and THEN fail the roadside blow-in-the-little-machine test,

Date: 2007-05-31 03:32 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lilyeyes.livejournal.com
sheesh - lj!!

Then you can pick a type of test to do at the jail - force blood draws only for a felony.

They must do things different in Texas...

Date: 2007-05-31 03:34 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] asimplechord.livejournal.com
It's Texas. It's a completely different world here, I think.

Date: 2007-05-31 03:45 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lilyeyes.livejournal.com
*snorts* - You are SO right!!! Just need keep your head down in that state!

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